4 26 2021
Conflicted John Hatch still influencing the board while the HOA Case 19CV52494 continues where they may be collaborating in the defense of BPM property management. He is influencing President Mary and former board member Ryan Burch influencing current board member Fernanda with the self-interested vexatious litigator Michael Vial, all in the spirit of allegedly narcissistic pathological liar sociopath Barbara Madsen.
Michael Vial created the 2008 construction contact and fraudulent special assessment while having a conflict of interest with a contractor. Then defending the board presidents and members along with the property management company’s. A perfect case of unethical legal malpractice and more. He needs to recuse himself and the firm.
John Hatch quote:
“Remember, Vial Fotheringham doesn't get paid to win cases. They get paid by getting us into lawsuits, win or lose.”
Realtor John Hatch wrote on 8/4/19 3:43 PM:
He has decided that we should repay Tom Burns and another the special assessment that they have paid.
I don't base my decisions on "Depends... who are we talking about?" In fact, I emailed my same conclusion to the "another" guy back in November 2018. My conclusion then and now is that new owners don't owe the old special assessment, based on our Declaration of Unit Ownership, Section(24) MORTGAGEES, and
ORS 100.475
(2) Where the purchaser of a unit obtains title to the unit as a result of foreclosure of the first mortgage or trust deed, such purchaser, the successors and assigns of the purchaser, shall not be liable for any of the assessments against such unit or its owner which became due prior to the acquisition of title to such unit by such purchaser
Wow, that sucks, if we want to collect the special assessment from the purchaser of a foreclosure. Game over.
This would be a significant hit to the HOA
Yes, two special assessment refunds work out to about $555 per owner. The cost of losing a lawsuit on the same issue would probably double our cost to $1,110 per owner. Remember, Vial Fotheringham doesn't get paid to win cases. They get paid by getting us into a lawsuits, win or lose.
and I believe that Eric would want to do a special assessment to cover the costs.
I believe that we should raise regular HOA dues to cover our expenses. The HOA has been unable to handle special assessments. Another special assessment if implemented near future would likely come as home prices decline. The homeowners underwater in their mortgages would again abandon their homes to foreclosure. That is what caused the lingering problem we have now.
This is something that previous board members have decided NOT to do after getting advice from the management company and our attorney.
John and I argued this privately where I asked John to produce any evidence of what advice past boards got, particularly in 2009-2010. John provided nothing. Community Association Partners (CAP) provided nothing. BPM HOA Management provided nothing. AMS has provided no legal advice regarding who should pay these old special assessments. Plus their contract specifically denies that they can be relied on for legal advice. Vial Fotheringham, https://web.archive.org/web/20170411020913/https://www.yelp.com/biz/vial-fotheringham-lake-oswego , has been inconsistent in their arguments about who is liable for special assessments. In a word, legal malpractice. If it is easier to collect it from the original owner as of Sept. 1, 2009, then Vial will call it what is was, a special assessment, assessed and owed by that owner. The Vial Fotheringham run foreclosure sale of 5150 #48 in March 2014, owned by Peter Ho was an example of that. They extracted the full special assessment principal. However, if it is more convenient to collect from the second owner after Sept, 1, 2009, then Vial Fotheringham will argue the opposite, that the special assessment wasn't a special assessment, it was a serial assessment, which is only assessed and owed a little bit each month. If that were true, then John would be on the hook for the monthly special assessments that would be assessed March 2015 and after.
Although Eric probably knows the law better than most it is outrageous that he would proceed to entertain spending our money without getting expert advice and guidance.
Fortunately, I did get expert advice, copied in the email below.
It is as if he wants to help Burns more than the home owners that he was elected to represent and protect.
I don't want to give my money away, and I have argued against Tom on his additional demands such as for his attorney fees.
I am also concerned that he is proposing to bend/change rules and conduct business in an unprofessional manner without the help of a management body to advise and help us.
I am concerned that you are posting ignorant rumors.
I may be worrying unnecessarily but I will not be able to attend the next board meeting and I want as many make sure that as many people as possible are aware enough to hold the board accountable.
Agreed.
John Hatch